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The film GasLand by Josh Fox shows the horrors of fracking and exposes the problems you encountered on your trip to Dimock, PA. Our activist group in Westchester County, NY is showing the film GasLand tomorrow night at the Harrison Library to encourage more people to act to push for the moratorium on fracking in NY State. We're totally on-board with what you're doing and are thrilled that you are involved and raising the profile of this horrific situation.

ryeactivist - I assume your group must therefore oppose your new governor's plan to shut down the 2200MW currently being generated by the Indian Point plants to replace them with gigantic methane-burners? If that happens the demand for nearby Marcellus-shale-produced gas will skyrocket.

This evening I listened to a Landsman from Chesapeake pitching his offer to a friend of mine here in WV. It was clear that she & her family were chomping at the bit to sign his papers. I kept thinking don't do it. Will my grand children have the same fishing opportunities as I do? What about their drinking water. I am already extremely upset that the State of WV turns their heads to our red colored creeks from the coal mines and now this. I had been asked to listen to his offer to see that a good deal was offered. This is quite a dilemma.

Fox is a liar and most of his film is pure crap. Drinking water wells have burned long before they started drilling for gas or fracking started and the water he shows burning is swamp gas not pure methane from 8000 feet below.

This contention about drinking water wells being contaminated >> before << the gas industry put wells on or near their property has already been addressed. To put it simply, it is bullsh*t. http://1trickpony.cachefly.net/gas/pdf/Affirming_Gasland_Sept_2010.pdf Also, it has been found that there are people from PR firms who have been hired by the gas drilling industry, and who post on news forums like this. As the internet is partially anonymous, it provides an open canvas for subterfuge. So when someone starts reading comments from people, one needs to be aware that this is going on and take it into consideration.
This contention about drinking water wells being contaminated >> before << the gas industry put wells on or near their property has already been addressed. To put it simply, it is bullsh*t. So this is bullsh*t:? A Penn State University study from 2006 (two years before shale in most of PA) that talks of guess what: methane in the water. So how is methane in the water caused by shale drilling? http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/FreePubs/pdfs/XH0010.pdf

their is no real lesson with out following the whole story. Gas was in our water for decades and the story was never covered. Why? we had no money. Once money comes to play, people will have a point of view. Ask any water well driller of the gas built up before all this. Also, thousands of wells have been drilled with out an issue. And may I ask, why is it that every person shown with water problems seems to be a back woods hick? Why is a doctor or a lawyers well never ruined?

Breaking news: the moratorium passed the NY Senate today by a vote of 48-9! Now we have to push the Assembly and Governor Patterson to support it as well.

Wheelhouse: So if everything is fine, why did the gas company spend their money on a filtration system for the farmer in Mark's post and truck in water when that didn't work?

Do the folks bothered by the drilling have any interest in the wells?

There are 3000 gas wells in NY State, some 100 years old.
Almost none have been a problem.
Many new jobs in PA with the drilling. Some say 20,000 now, 50,000 next year.

The well in Dimmoc was not even fracked, it was only drilled and cased. Drilling, even without frac can be risky. But how many of these water wells were poorly dug to start with? How many poor water well contractors are held acountable?
I sit the Tar Sands stretch for dozens of miles in all directions and are filled with vast pits and the monstrous machines that dug them and countless miles of pipes that weave together the giant erector sets of stacks and silos and furnaces and thousands of acres of settling ponds surrounded by propane cannons firing at geese and ducks in a Wonderland sort of way, not to kill them but to keep them from landing on and dying in the toxic ponds themselves. Where the ponds have dried a fine, pungent dust blows in the wind and stings the eyes and throat and smoke billows far across the land from upgraders that transform the base bitumen into a higher form of drug that can be shot directly into the veins of modern society. ___________________________ So Thanks on this nice sharing. testking E20-591
Really, what is the problem? Water wells blow up and are contaminated when wells are drilled and/or fracked - people get sick, their water stinky, turns color, or goes dry in their wells upon fracking or poor drilling? Why all the complaints - there is nothing wrong with this - and anyhow, if we need energy to keep warm, we can now (some of us) light our water on fire in the sink - go ahead, cook dinner while lighting your water on fire... save energy - but - OH! don't drink the water maybe... Oh, and those 'sick people?' death and illness, passing out, small price to pay for gas, hmmm? Not to those it happens to