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Urban Harvest

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I applaud your attempt to cleanup after the rituals involved with your religion. This is a very large step and I know it is in the right direction.
(By the way I was mis-quoted in the NY Times, but if it was the push needed to snap us out of the envelope of denial "we all were in" then it could have been a good thing) I don't even use the expression "stuff it" and I would not have said that about the actual ceremony since I do find it a lovely experience.
As far as the debris created from the ceremonies, yes I was very frustrated by the amount and continued layering of this debris with no stopping....to consider the effect.... or why wasn't parks cleaning it????
I could have said "Put it" or "place it" but the "stuff it" part was harshly read and I do apologize if it irritated anyone.

The Ganges river is a water body that has a heavy current in one direction. The river flows from the melted snow in the Himalayas to the Ocean....we have tidal areas in NYC. The water you through articles into goes up and down with the tides.
Therefore the articles thrown in mostly return to our shores and get caught in the Salt Water Marshes. The cloth stays in the rocks "the rip rap walls" that keep errosion from occuring along the shores of our parkland.
The Mollusks that usually grow between the rocks are extremely important filtering organisms for the pollutants that are dumped into the waters through the Combined Sewer Overflows after each rainy day due to "inadequate sewage disposal plants". The mollusks cannot grow on or under the cloth that lines our rocks. Teenage volunteers cannot be given sharp blades to cut away this "9 yards each) cloth as it is imbedded in the sand due to the changing tides.

Photos on www.ferrypointpark.org under hindu button.

I do believe that it is only a matter of a few years before the worshippers will realize the detrimental affect of the now used large aluminum pans (to float the offerings) and styrofoam plates (to float flowers)the 5 yards of yellow white or black nylon/ poly cloth. Don't forget the hundreds of plastic bags that blow away as you empty them of their offing articles in the shore winds. There are also the hundreds of half filled water bottles left behind after using the water in ceremony between prayers. What about the bamboo flags with the fringe that we have found a few dead birds tangled in? The open coconuts are not much of a problem but the unopened ones obnociously bob around until they form a line along the marshes.
(to bad the can't actually grow).

These were once biodegradable offerings thrown into a fast moving river that fed into the sea. Also any cloth that was left in the ganges could be washed and used a a sitting "rug" in the homes of others. Sometimes the cloth is given to an elderly woman as a symbol instead of the water.
Let's not destroy our very precious life giving entities that you worship in your way and we worship in ours.
I believe we are all worshipping the life giving forces of nature each time we pick up trash from our waterways and salt water marshes.
"Lets see more HIndus helping us to catch up to the amount that is thrown in and I imagine they will consider the type and size of their future symbolic offerings...What about you???"
Join the Saturday Spring (May 10th?) and Fall (Oct 20th?) "It's My Park Days" at the parks you worship in to help us pick up the offerings....

Dorothea, thank you for your insightful comments. I respect and commend your cleanup efforts as well as your desire to educate. I will speak about the difference between the tidal water in NY and unidirectional water elsewhere in an upcoming post. Thank you for bringing up this important point.

Another direction I took to try to solve the problem in general was to contact a company that makes "bio degradable Cloth"
From conversations with worshippers, I learnt that the offering has to be "cloth".
I reached out to a few manufacturers and found the car wipes/Diaper Liners is the closest to real cloth because it has a high rag content that has been compressed into a cloth like material. The problem is that the few companies that make this liner are not set up to dye them yellow and they are shipped in large bulk rolls. I thought if I could start up a non profit that handled the sale online of biodegradable yellow cloth I could reduce the impact on the mollusks in the marshes and much more. Oh well... maybe some day...I even thought of having a printed design on the edge in gold...kind of like 57 x 9yards of heavy paper towel....

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I read these wonderful words but can not get the huge amount of smelly, debris (that is still caught in the weeds) to blend in with the poetry and intense spirituality of the words. I almost wish I had never witnessed the constant debris on our breezy life filled waterfront. I may have been more able to appreciate these words. Join us Sept. 25th saturday 2010 as 50 volunteers spend 3 hours each 10am to 1pm to clean up more debris left behind after the ceremonies.
Sorry I didn't leave my name and location Dorothea Poggi (Friends of FP Park) the open to the public side of Ferry Point Park is located at the West side of the Bronx/Whitestone bridge. We will be at the waterfront near the "Circle of Life" where the flag pole is (which we some what designed in our Master Plan years ago). We look forward to your opinions and suggestions to compromise on this debris situation.
March 26th Saturday...2011 Two goats and at least 4 chickens were decapitated within black Hindu prayer flags ...blood was everywhere....along with various other offerings. The goats heads were in sight but we still have the maggot infested goat bodies to find when they wash up to shore due to these waters being Tidal. Let's get together and try to arrange these important rituals with our cleanups. If their is no way for Hindus to "outgrow" these primitive ways to practice their religion, then lets us work together until the time comes when a wafer can symbolize blood and flesh of Christ or Holy Water symbolizes being washed in the creeks and rivers. Various other symbolic ways that other religions have figured out to combine previous "Pagan" worship to fit within the Health Codes and laws of their Cities.