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Urban Harvest

Confronting climate change and poverty, a new crop of city farmers comes of age in Africa. Table of Contents | Digital Edition
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As Greg Miller found in Tortel, I also found that the people living in small towns in Chile's Patagonia region are remarkably farsighted about the future. They have deliberately chosen small, remote towns as offering a better future for their children than a larger city with fancier lifestyles. Yet these communities, as well as Patagonian wilderness, would be lost if these dams are developed. The construction boom alone with its mostly male workers and facilities for them would bring terrible changes for these small towns. And the people in these towns are right when they say there are alternatives for Chile's development. But without strong international protest, the Baker and Pascua Rivers are likely to repeat the sad story of the Columbia and other wild rivers in the United States.

Well Valerie let me try to explai something USA is a federal sustem of goverment ,that mean that de citizen of California decide what they want in California but can not impose their views over New Jersey por ejample if the people in New jersey decide to hang a criminal the people of California can not stop that and vice versa Chile is a unitarian countrie what the parlamente and president decide is tha same for North Central and South part of Chile and here an example if the sector of goberment that deal with dams aprove a dam construction in Rio Baker the dam can be build even over the oposition of all the resident in the area and all the foreigners that oppose the dam construction. capisco? HIs a very diferent way to govern and is a democratic system that work in several countries as a fact the mayority are unitarian countrien non federal I tthink that all the people in this foro , and the mayority of people on this (onearth magazine) are good person some of them are bad , elitist arrogantand ugly american etc and ALL of them are a little out of focus let me tell tahat about population it took at least 100000 and1804 years to reach the population of 1 billion, we reach the second billion on 1927, the their billion , the four billion on 1960,the fifth on 1974, the six on 1987 theseven on 1999 the eight will be on 2012.....and the potencial population for the year 2150 will be 257 billion if the population grow at the 1995 rate.........there will be no river without dam no space to libe no remote place to escape of the noise big city.......that is what we are facing and here Sam and Devon complaint about the trail or the fumes of the kitchen that burn wood for heating and cooking
Two more point. First any dam around the world can fail and destruction and dead have ,and will happen ( i think one colapse in Ca)dam were build by the Romans 2000 years ago,some of them still working the Roman Empire colapse but the dams still are there. on California Oregon and Wasington there are more 3030 dams California is also a earquake zone so a lot of destruction can also happen in the west.... Second ) the rivers on China have produce millions of dead trough the history of that countrie and population one of the reazon to make dams is to tray to control the rivers hope the chinese have build a solid dam So why to alarm the chilean about dam it sems to me that there are people that use any stategia ..even,some very inmoral like the one used by international Rivers org that promote in USA a boicot to wood product from Chile.... and what happen with all the thousand of poor chilean that lost the JOB or the people that lost their bussiness???? But should one of the proposed dams fail, Tortel would be washed out to sea. QUOTE....Sure that that can happen also california can desapear under the sea alast point the companie that plan to build the dam propose also to build 4 or 5 micro dams to supply electricity to aysen area...so is false that All electricipy will go to Santiago....Never I have read in my life so many half trues AND DISTORTION OF THE REAL FACTS,THAT IN THIS ONEARTH MAGAZINE and i think here are the best intelectual mind and that made this more SAD
Well here I post about a dam in California that colapse and kill 600 people WHY California Oregon and Washington continue building dams if the dams are so bad?????Look at the date of the colapse 1928 by the way on 1927 earth have 2 billion people on 2012 will have 7 billion!!!what we do with the people???.....Sure at the time of construction there will be thousand on men working hard.....and sure there will came a lot of woman to provide their services....NADA NUEVO BAJO EL SOL The St. Francis Dam was a concrete gravity-arch dam, designed to create a reservoir as a storage point of the Los Angeles Aqueduct. It was located 40 miles (64 km) northwest of Los Angeles, California, near the present city of Santa Clarita. The dam was built between 1924 and 1926 under the supervision of William Mulholland, chief engineer and general manager of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, then called the Bureau of Water Works and Supply. Three minutes before midnight on March 12, 1928, the dam failed catastrophically, and the resulting flood killed more than 450 people. The collapse of the St. Francis Dam is one of the worst American civil engineering failures of the 20th century and remains the second-greatest loss of life in California's history, after the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake and fire. The disaster marked the end of Mulholland's career.