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Urban Harvest

Confronting climate change and poverty, a new crop of city farmers comes of age in Africa. Table of Contents | Digital Edition
Guardian Environmental Network

great job, lots of good insights

The blog is excellent. The writer's descriptions are so thoughtful and well articulated that I find myself thinking about the issues she describes long after I read the blog. Kudos to her for writing so well about issues that are obscured in the sanitized descriptions we see in other writings and movies.

Nicely written. I wonder, however, whether India's spirituality has been idealized on screen or if it is our own lack of spirituality that makes any other culture's appear idealized. Moreover, it sounds as though there are a million reasons to see India, if I understand Miss Lubin's essay accurately. From the perspective of one who couldn't go for financial reasons, however, I am only able to experience reality as far as the screen can present it to me, which to me seems both unfortunate and rather ironic because it means that I am circumstantially limited in my ability to understand the realities that presented themselves with evident clarity to Miss Lubin. It sounds as though I can't truly appreciate the movie. Am I missing something greater than the film by not watching it?

You write "equally my fate to spend much of my time writing about the environmental and economic development catastrophes that went unnoticed all around me—the trash burning in piles everywhere, the complete lack of any kind of garbage collection system, the overwhelming absence of environmental knowledge".

I am wondering... shouldn't you have instead said the following "I, being a teenager/college student spending a semester as a foreign student in India, and not having any specialized knowledge of Indian politics, culture, society and economics, and also not having contact with any of the thousands of NGO's working on environment/livelihood of the poor issues in India, and having only a very shallow understanding of a complex society could only attribute the poverty and squalor around me to lack of environmental knowledge of the Indians".

I got to hand it to you, mate- very few people can be so self indulgent, smug and patronizing in the guise of expressing concern about the environment and India. If you were born in a village where there was no sanitation arrangement of any sort, you would behave in EXACTLY the same way that Indians behave- so get rid of the chip on your shoulder and try to relate to people- think about the environment after that.

One more thing- read your own country's history- say Chicago around the early 20th century (assuming you are from USA). The rate of infant mortality, the massive inequality, the dirt and squalor, the pollution was not much different from the Mumbai of today. So, understand that this is about poverty, it is not about India or Indians. Just one diference, when the Western countries were as poor as India is today, none of them were functioning democracies with universal franchise and meaningful politial participation and political freedoms. By any measure, political, economic or cultural- India is one of the most succesful experiments in nation building in post-colonial Asia and Africa- if you don't believe me, go and speak to one your professors in Columbia who is an expert on such issues. Of course, India has many severe problems/flaws and environmetnal degradation, poverty, corruption and inequality are all very serious concerns, but I don't think that supercilious foreigners like you who express a mixture of pity/contempt for the people of my country can contribute to the debate.

That leaves us with "Slumdog Millionarie"! The reason that a trashy Bollywood movie like that (even though it was made by a foreigner, the genre is very much Bollywood) won international acclaim and copious praise from incisive critics such as yourself has very little to do with its potrayal of "reality"- but it has everything to do with how the movie manages to pander to every silly sterotype about India that white people have. Since I am running out of time, I will recommend this discussion on the movie by Salman Rushdie- a British-Indian writer who is thought to be pretty sharp! http://laurencejarvikonline.blogspot.com/2009/03/salman-rushdie-v-slumdo....