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This article espouses misinformation at its finest. It goes so far as to insinuate that drilling fluids used in hydrofracking contain readioactive materials! Fracking fluid is mostly water, with sand, and 0.5% common chemicals found around the house.

Fracking occurs thousands of feet below water aquifers. It is inconceivable to (rationally) think that these minute traces of chemicals will migrate, in opposition to gravity, through rock formations, and into drinking water. The only danger from hydrofracking is to George Soros' offshore investments, and Vladimir Putin's hold over Europe.

Please see the movie "Gasland" if you believe that fracking has no consequences and to receive the facts on the gross amounts of carcinogenic chemicals that are present in people's drinking water once fracking has occurred in their area.

I am sorry but you are misinformed. Everything I wrote in this essay is completely factual; I challenge you to expose anything more than a typo. Please don't insult my credibility unless you can back up your statements.

Fracking does release radioactivity. Normally occurring radioactive material (NORM) deep underground often can be brought to the surface on drilling equipment and fracking fluid. This toxic substance has been known to accumulate as sediments in holding tanks and ponds used by drilling companies.
http://www.catskillmountainkeeper.org/node/290
http://wri.eas.cornell.edu/gas_wells_waste.html
(Notice that I can back up my statements).

Secondly, why is it ok if fracking fluid is only .5% or even .05% harmful chemicals? Many of these chemicals are poisonous at extremely low concentrations, and are often regulated as parts per million.

Thirdly, your statement about common kitchen chemicals isn't completely truthful. Some of the chemicals used in fracking (like formaldehyde or benzene--a carcinogen) are rarely if ever used by the average cook or cleaner. And even if your statement was true, would you want high volumes of toxic kitchen chemicals leaking into your groundwater?

Lastly, there are many recorded incidents of toxic fracking fluids polluting wells or contaminating groundwater or streams. Many of these instances were self-recorded by gas drilling companies. Therefore, please don't try to tell me groundwater won't be contaminated.

There are equally compelling arguments that run counter to yours. A recent Congressional hearing into environmental hazards of fracking brought into evidence not one instance of confirmed groundwater contamination. Your citations are "suspected."

http://thehayride.com/2009/12/are-congressional-democrats-aiming-to-shut...

10,000 dead fish can't be wrong.
http://catskillmountainkeeper.org/node/993

Are you kidding the United States Congress is a subsidiary of oil and gas companies!! Of course they havent found any problems. LOL

I think its a really brilliant idea to leave a couple thousand toxic ponds under our feet for future generations. Let them deal with the environmental consiquences....... STUPID HUMANS!

These solvents used in HydroFracking fluids may be toxic to our health initially... But you have to understand that they will not readily leach out into the water table. These solvents are injected literally 4,000 - 9,000 feet below the surface. Most often these solvents are more dense than water and will not advectively flow. These solvents instead drop out and "sorb" or "cling" to soil particles where they will then undergo bio-degradation, based on anaerobic conditions long before they will ever enter our water table. Also these solvents are not "radioactive". The radioactivity you are referring to is the black shale that is broken apart in the hydrofracking process, that is "radioactive" Radioactivity is everywhere... Smoke Alarms, Carbon Monoxide detectors, etc... The real problem arises with hydrofracking is not properly sealing wells once they have been "closed". Another problem is the fact of recycling these hydrofracking fluids once they have been withdrawn from the well. That is the focal point that many people miss to address. The hydrofracking process is a relatively safe, it's what occurs in the aftermath (mishandling and improper sealing) which is a problem.

-Currently taking Contaminant Hydrogeology
-Issue was a public debate at my school three days ago
-I live 30 minutes away from Marcellus, NY

Thanks for the insightful comment, Snizzle. However, I disagree with your point that the radiation is safe because it is natural. In fact, when the DEC tested 12 vertical wells in Marcellus Shale in 2008 and 2009, they found that "the wastewater at 10 of them also contained a radioactive derivative of uranium at levels hundreds of times as high as the federal limit for people to drink safely."( Is New York’s Marcellus Shale Too Hot to Handle?). As well, I agree that in a perfect world, hydrofracking would be "relatively safe." However, because of human error, spills can happen. Because of the hazardous chemicals and the volume of water used, even one spill could be extremely harmful to the aquifer.

On the other hand, I argee that the disposal of the wastewater is a huge problem. In PA, wastewater has been dumped into streams after minimal treatment, causing levels of total dissolved solids (TDS)to increase. Although mostly harmless to people, TDS can increase stream salinity, and negatively affect the color, odor and taste of the water. Radium and other harmful chemicals are often also not removed during processing. Unfortunately, drilling in NYS could release about 3 billion gallons of wastewater annually, and the state right now would be unable to treat or store it properly.

http://www.propublica.org/feature/drill-wastewater-disposal-options-in-n...
http://www.propublica.org/feature/is-the-marcellus-shale-too-hot-to-hand...

Is it not time to stop ruining every thing good we have left? We have clean water here in the finger lakes and beautiful scenery. Our farm lands and vineyards are healthy. The lakes provide fresh drinking water to millions. It is time to conserve and be careful with our resources. Stop driving that huge SUV and heating your house to 75 degrees. What happened to people wearing sweaters and layers of clothes in the winter instead of walking around like it's perpetual summer. Try to drive a vehicle that doesn't weigh so much it ruins the roads and takes up to two parking places. And to all the people who signed leases, why should those who did not have their lives impacted by your greed.

i challange all of you who oppose natural gas drilling to find us and alternative source of energy, 2 marcellus shale horizontal wells produce more energy than all of the windmills east of the mississippi!

Thanks for the article on hydrofracking in New York... The threat is moving south - down to Virginia now ...

Greedy energy companies do not care - Just like the pristine white beaches of Northwest Florida are getting hit by the BP oil spill... now large natural gas drilling companies are heading into the beautiful Shenandoah Valley of Virginia to hydrofrack.

Contamination of our water supply and destruction of our land lies ahead unless we take action. States must make regulations to control natural gas drilling (hydrofracking), a few years ago, the Federal government awarded natural gas drilling companies energy an exemption from adhering to Safe Drinking Water Act. Sounds pretty cozy to me.

Read more about the spread of hydrofracking to the Shenandoah Valley - possibly in Bergton, VA:

http://7bends.com/2010/05/24/county-decision-natural-gas-drilling-in-vir...

Can we all just agree to disagree, but STOP destroying the earth? Can Big Business and Government work towards finding solutions aside from searching for fossil fuel in and around human habitats? Surely BP Oil considered the risks of offshore drilling in our Gulf, along with potential for cataclysmic ecologigal demise in the event of a disaster. Too bad their "numbers" included "0.5%" on the downside. Hydrofrackers, are YOU LISTENING? Do you see any connection? Can you say: Not within human habitat?

Dear Mr. Bloodgas,
I hope you have watched gasland on HBO. And maybe someday as the gas companies frac around your house, you too may be able to light up your tap water to heat your home. That is as your family, pets and other associated living beings die from the multiple diseases caused be the crud in your drinking water.

Please be a responsible player in this discussion and provide the entire context of the "fact" you relate to about the congressional panel . . . when later pressed on his "fact" by the Pennsylvania congresswoman, he clarified that that examination only pertained to testing in 6 of the 34 states where this type of natl. gas fracking was occurring. Hence, both his and your logic is far from conclusive and just plain in err: you can't make a clear cut and conclusive correlation here!

As a concerned land owner and resident of nys. I am against hydrofracking. I will never let these money hogs on my land. I will stand up as much as possible. They tell you it is non harmful but any chemical put in the ground unnaturally is harmful either to the soil, water, and wildlife. They are going to tell you that as they want the almighty dollar. Money only talks so long when there is no more natural resources then what?

Interesting video on the issue from Earthworks:

Stand up NY!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rO9UqJCmhw

tales of your impending demise are wildly exaggerated.

Come visit Chautauqua Country NY. We over 3000 producing gas wells- all of which have been hydraulically fractured.

It's not exactly an industrial hell-scape here. It's actually pretty nice (albeit cold in the winter).

Admittedly, our wells have smaller frac jobs - usually 40K-80K gallons. But, if you look at the total density of drilling (40 acre spacing vs 640 acre spacing - the frac density isn't too far off - particularly since our wells are much shallower (2000-4000 feet deep). We don't pay much attention to gas drilling here, but its been here for over a hundred years. Fredonia NY is where it all got started.

People out east seem to have worked themselves into a panic. The Marcellus will neither be the "best thing ever" nor the total destruction of the upstate environment.

Y'all need to relax - roll with it. Some people will make a bunch of dough. Others will get decent jobs. Most of y'all won't be affected.

Hydrofracking is another method of extracting natural gases. The difference is it can access areas that in the past were either too expensive or unaccessible. I am not sure that the method is any more problematic that traditional methods of drilling for gas. This is not an endorsement for drilling rather an invitation for those will influence and knowledge to actually engage in some truthful dialogue and hopefully honest solutions for our energy crisis.
Hey Bloodgas, are you outta your fracking mind? Did you actually see the investigation done into this environmental nightmare by the NY Times? And it all comes from industry records, so you can't say its bull. These lo-lives have been dumping radioactive and toxic chemical waste right into rivers and streams that supply drinking water to millions of people all across the country. And we're talking about levels of radioactivity that are hundreds to thousands of times higher than allowed by law in water. At one point, people in Pittsburg were told to drink bottled water. And its already been reported that aquifers have been contaminated in 5 states. I'd rather go back to horse and buggy than allow this to happen. They're turning this country into a wasteland. You can't do this without it contaminating the water and land. These idiots have fracking fluid ponds the size of football fields full of radioactive and toxic chemicals just sitting there next to homes. You go look at the people in several states that have already written their property off as worthless. Even farmland where we grow our food has been contaminated. One Republican Governor in Texas had to move his family when his child started spraying blood from his nose. Some of you people are just as bad as these gas cronies, you only worry about filling your pockets and no one else. Do you have any idea what these criminals are doing to future generations? And once the damage is done there's no turning back. If you think a few bucks is worth turning about 30+ states into wasteland, then be my guest, frack away. Here's an investigation from pro-publica that'll show you so many nightmares that you won't be able to sleep. These oil and gas cronies have lied to the people every step of the way.