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Urban Harvest

Confronting climate change and poverty, a new crop of city farmers comes of age in Africa.
Guardian Environmental Network

Just this week our local "leaders" in Tucson announced their plans to make Tucson the solar center of this country. Don't hold your breath, this will happen right after we complete Rio Nuevo.

Ray @ New World Solar
http://newworldsolarpower.com

Solar PV is too expensive at the moment to be viable. HB2701 is a good step. The ACC made a bad choice. I try to explain this in theenergygame.blogspot.com. Arizona will be better off with a strong conservation program rather than PV subsidy programs.

joesolar - A good step to what? Policy uncertainty? Lost jobs? National embarrassment? Lawsuits?

Solar is not too expensive, that is an out right lie! What is too expensive is nuclear. Also too expensive is the billions of dollars in corporate welfare doled out to big fossil fuel every year. Eliminate that and you eliminate any advantages that fossil fuel has over renewable energy. Those are the facts!

In a bill recently submitted by Bernie Sanders to get 10 million new homes to install solar, he proves indisputably that the cost of solar panels is ONE TENTH THE COST OF NUCLEAR!!! Plus, solar panels can be installed immediately. Nuclear power takes over 10 years to bring a new plant on line.

Face it, the only reason for passing such a regressive bill is because the legislatures in Arizona are in the pocket of nuclear and fossil fuel industries. The legislatures are getting paid legal bribes to commit mutiny against their citizens by killing solar power in their state.

Residents of Arizona should be up in arms, but they are blissfully ignorant, just as most U.S. citizens.

We are living in the end times of Rome. But we won't be over run by hordes of barbarians. We are being over run by hordes of multinational corporate barbarians, who just happen to be owned by the upper 1% plutocracy.

WELCOME TO MALWART!

I am so sorry for posting my fraudulent comment before. I am just another highly paid lobbyist whose job is to post misinformation and to kill the solar industry.

@joesolar

If you agree to store, for free, all of the nuclear waste generated by Arizona nuclear power plants on your personal property, I might begin to think that nuclear power is renewable. If you are as dumb as I find Arizonans tend to be, you already are.

This is so revealing of the hearts and minds of the solar loons. Someone stole my name and made a post which any 5th grader could see was not from me. Want a pathethic bunch.

Attention all solar loons:

Grid Tied Solar PV is too expensive!

A. A 1 kW grid tied system cost 5,000 to install.

B. It will produce 1650 kWhr/y which is worth about $45 (without the net metering subsidy).

C. The payback is >100 years.

ABC, it's easy to see!

It's a waste of money for you and me!

If you want solar, then pay for it yourself. Stop peddling your snake oil in Arizona.

@joe.........without subsidies, and federal aid, we as a nation would not have the dam and electrical system infrastructure from TVA and Roosevelt dam(AZ) and others. We would also not have the great interstate highway system that keeps our food prices low. There are many examples of aid that have been a socialist endeavor that has benefited many Americans. This assistance is not bad, it is just necessary to move forward as a nation. If you calculated the cost of the present overseas conflicts and tried to justify that. Well I cannot.